What ever happened with the Genesis Coupe?

"TheOnelectronic" (theoneelectronic) 03/31/2016 at 19:37 • Filed to: None

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I remember when it was first announced, it seemed like an awesome combination. 5.0 V8, Brembo brakes, sporty coupe styling. I don’t think I’ve ever really heard about them since. I’ve seen maybe a couple on the road, but I feel like I see far more Tiburons from the same era.

This was at least a year or two before Ford started offering the 5.0 in the Mustang again. The Genesis was pretty much the only car in the race for someone who wanted a small(ish?) car with a big V8.

Is it just coincidence? Did the car not live up to its specs?

*Since I never got beyond a “neat” level of interest, any and all information in this post may be wholly inaccurate.

EDIT- The consensus is that it never did apparently come with the V8. that explains a lot.

wiffleballtony > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 19:38

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The coupes never had a V8. Only a turbo 4 or a NA six. So yeah...

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 19:38

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the coupe never got the Tau V8...

Master Cylinder > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 19:44

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Yeah, I remember when it was first mentioned as being anticipated with the V8, but then it was released and you couldn’t have it with the big motor. I kinda stopped paying attention to it after that. I’m sure it was a decent car, though.

Jayhawk Jake > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 19:47

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You would be onto something if it ever came with the V8

Only came in 2.0T and 3.8. It’s a fine car, but most reviews I’ve read essentially say the chassis tuning isn’t great. I think it’s just a victim of being an also-ran in a category where people tend to pick established brands. How many people really want a Hyundai Genesis Coupe over a Ford Mustang of Chevrolet Camaro?

For the Genesis Coupe to be truly successful it needs to set itself apart. It could do so by being outstanding performance or outstanding value. It’s neither of those. If they offered a V8 for the price of a competitor’s V6 or Turbo, I think they’d see more interest. It’ll never happen though, not enough profit there.

Leadbull > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 19:50

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I thought there was a lot of potential, but Hyundai kind of neglected it.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Jayhawk Jake 03/31/2016 at 19:50

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i would so take a Genesis coupe over both...but that’s my bias showing

wiffleballtony > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 03/31/2016 at 19:55

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You’d take a Hyundai 3.8 over a Mustang 5.0 at the same price?

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 19:55

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It was only the sedan that got the V8. The coupe only got a 3.8 V6 or a 2.0 turbo I4.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > wiffleballtony 03/31/2016 at 19:56

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For daily use? Without a question...running costs alone would finialize that decision

Chariotoflove > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 19:58

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Well Hyundai still sells a 2016 model. The question is what happens now that Genesis is becoming a luxury sub-brand. Will the coupe be continued as something else? And I do think it's a pretty cool car at a good price.

Steve in Manhattan > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 20:05

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When I think about these things, I will generally try and strip off the badges in my mind and see what’s what. The new Ford Probe? (please find another name). A revived Toyota Celica? Those are possibilities. So does the car suffer from the badge at this point in time.

wiffleballtony > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 03/31/2016 at 20:05

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What exactly do you think makes it so expensive?

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > wiffleballtony 03/31/2016 at 20:06

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there’s a horrible thing in my state called “ car insurance”

gin-san - shitpost specialist > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 20:13

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I remember when it first hit the news, there was some speculation about a V8 coupe but it just never materialized. The 2.0T was decent but it wasn’t until 2013 when they gave it a nice bump up to 274hp instead of the 200hp or so that it initially had.

That said, the current 3.8 V6 is not that far off the 4.6 V8 that was optional on the sedan when the Genesis first came out. Even now, the difference between the 3.8 V6 and the 5.0 V8 is about 50hp, but I believe the V6 uses regular whereas the V8 needs premium, so that’s part of the power difference.

If Hyundai makes a new Genesis coupe which closely follows their vision G concept, that would be the perfect time for the V8. The chassis is quite old at this point and they need something new to show off whatever they’ve (hopefully) learned to this point.

I’d love to have this with a V8:

Say what you will about the styling, I think this has a presence more befitting of a premium brand (which is the direction Genesis seems to be going).

wiffleballtony > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 03/31/2016 at 20:31

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I’m no insurance expert but my insurance hardly changed when I bought mine.

LOREM IPSUM > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 20:33

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I remember them saying it was going to have upwards of 400hp. When I found out that they shelved that plan in favor of less powah I stopped paying attention.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > wiffleballtony 03/31/2016 at 20:33

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State Farm quoted me about $1200 a month if I were to insure my Si under my own policy. For reference, I’m 21 with a clean license.

I’m not saying a Genesis would be cheap...but it’d most likely be a world cheaper than a GT

wiffleballtony > gin-san - shitpost specialist 03/31/2016 at 20:35

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What are you talking about. The horsepower difference is closer to 90, not 50. The 5.0 can run 87 unleaded.

DoYouEvenShift > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 03/31/2016 at 20:40

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$1200 a month?! Did you run a school bus off the road? At 21 I was paying around $125 a month for an LS1 TA. With a couple tickets on my record.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 20:40

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It only came with a 3.something V6 and a 2.0 turbo 4. But still a cheap RWD coupe with a manual and decent styling. I kinda want one.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > DoYouEvenShift 03/31/2016 at 20:43

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#Jersey

gin-san - shitpost specialist > wiffleballtony 03/31/2016 at 20:46

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My bad, I was looking at numbers for an older version of the 5.0 which was 395hp. Looks like the new GDI one is at 429hp.

DoYouEvenShift > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 03/31/2016 at 20:48

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Never visited. Ouch though.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > DoYouEvenShift 03/31/2016 at 20:49

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they wanted $2100 a month for an Evo (i got a quote for shits and giggles)

DoYouEvenShift > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 03/31/2016 at 20:53

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I would of told them to fuck a goat and shot them in the face!

#Texan

wiffleballtony > gin-san - shitpost specialist 03/31/2016 at 20:57

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The 2011 version started at 412bhp...

dogisbadob > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 21:00

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They discontinued the 2.0T Track after the first year, so it became dead to me. The Track is an R-spec but with a few more features like the sunroof. To me, no sunroof, no deal.

However, Hyundai did keep offering the 2.0T Track in Canada the whole time, albeit under a different name.

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 21:29

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I spent a week with the 3.8 R-spec. Fun car that I’d consider buying. The console torque gauge was an interesting touch.

http://oppositelock.kinja.com/hyundai-genesi…

gin-san - shitpost specialist > wiffleballtony 03/31/2016 at 21:33

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Not from what I’ve read, but sure, I guess.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_T…

wiffleballtony > gin-san - shitpost specialist 03/31/2016 at 21:37

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Whoa there I’m talking about the Coyote 5.0 not the Tau. Massive miscommunication, probably on my part.

MountainRoadPhysicist > DoYouEvenShift 03/31/2016 at 21:48

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$125 sounds way more reasonable than his arm and a leg. My M235i came out to $98 in Colorado, got it when I was 25 though which would lower it a touch.

Mustafaluigi > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 03/31/2016 at 22:22

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Something tells me that was $1200 for a 6 month quote. 200 a month is still high.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Mustafaluigi 03/31/2016 at 22:30

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Just did a quick online quote

TheRealBicycleBuck > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 22:38

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A fellow was running a 2.0 in my group on the track day I attended not too long ago. It was a decent looking car, but didn’t perform like I expected. To prevent crashes, we had staggered starts. I was two cars behind the Hyundai, but managed to catch him. I really did expect more from him.

ranwhenparked > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 23:02

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It’s a Hyundai, a low price brand, that when nicely equipped, costs more than the equivalent Dodge, which is a slightly more prestigious medium priced brand. That’s the problem.

TheOnelectronic > ranwhenparked 03/31/2016 at 23:12

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I’d say Hyundai is a much more high quality brand than Dodge.

And I’m not complimenting Hyundai.

And I don’t think Dodge really had a competitor. The closest things would be the Dart, which was awful, and the Challenger, which is a massive boat of a vehicle.

ranwhenparked > TheOnelectronic 03/31/2016 at 23:13

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I’m going by traditional positioning - I still see Hyundai as more of a Plymouth-Chevrolet-Ford competitor than a Dodge-Pontiac-Mercury rival.

Shmevans > dogisbadob 03/31/2016 at 23:20

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The turbo is gone completely now. Only the 3.8 in various trims. R-Spec being the cheapest but by far the most sporty with the Brembos, 19's and tuned suspension.